If you turn right, there's a fire station.wallmeerkat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 09:45Beside the "Disciplined Services Quarters" what are the wig-wags for? https://www.google.com/maps/@22.3311317 ... ?entry=ttujgharston wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 06:55 Another "all the way round" junction is on New Clearwater Bay Road in Hong Kong. I used to catch the bus along that route.
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That’s called a trumpet interchange - there must be a hundred in the UK and probably thousands around the world!jgharston wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 06:55Another "all the way round" junction is on New Clearwater Bay Road in Hong Kong. I used to catch the bus along that route.
A 270 degree loop is quite a common feature of interchange design - I’m not sure listing them all here would be quite what the OP was looking for
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What about a 360 degree bend? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.11595 ... ?entry=ttu
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One of the many of the road. Personally the best are the set of 3 between Langley and Whitfield around the River Allen. On a hill and very sharp indeed. No great warning for them either just some slows on the road coming down from Langleyconeman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 08:55 Haven't seen this one mentioned yet,the A686 Hartside Pass
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The thing with New Clearwater Bay Road is that it's the mainline that goes through a 360-degree loop. The junction with Shun Lee Tsun Road to the south-east is the trumpet junction.Chris5156 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:16That’s called a trumpet interchange - there must be a hundred in the UK and probably thousands around the world!jgharston wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 06:55Another "all the way round" junction is on New Clearwater Bay Road in Hong Kong. I used to catch the bus along that route.
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Oh yes, I see what you mean! I just saw the trumpet first time round - maybe because I opened the link on a phone so the screen didn’t show a very large area. Either way, I’m sorry if I was telling you things you already knew!jgharston wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:00The thing with New Clearwater Bay Road is that it's the mainline that goes through a 360-degree loop. The junction with Shun Lee Tsun Road to the south-east is the trumpet junction.Chris5156 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:16That’s called a trumpet interchange - there must be a hundred in the UK and probably thousands around the world!jgharston wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 06:55Another "all the way round" junction is on New Clearwater Bay Road in Hong Kong. I used to catch the bus along that route.
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It's had a few mentions here already, but it's a great photo. It's a very narrow road - probably the narrowest of all the ones mentioned, including the Bealach na Ba.
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The two hairpins here https://www.google.com/maps/@57.591687, ... &entry=ttu and here https://www.google.com/maps/@57.5913424 ... &entry=ttu, 2 miles south of Fochabers, are fairly tame, but the gradients on either side are fun. There used to be a ford through the burn too, but it was culverted in the 1970s.
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I don't think anyone's mentioned the ones on the Cairngorm ski road yet. This one https://www.google.com/maps/@57.1464062 ... &entry=ttu, with the Sugar Bowl car park inside it, isn't hugely sharp, but it is nearly 180 degrees. And there are two others farther up.
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And it used to be a lot sharper, with the war memorial right on the corner too! https://www.google.com/maps/@57.4018321 ... &entry=ttu
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Looked back through the thread and realised that we haven't had the Khyber Pass, Whitby
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This is one way heading uphill from the quayside to the west cliff attractions including the Pavilion theatre, hotels, the crazy golf, and Whitby Town FC have their stadium up there too.
Khyber Pass
https://maps.app.goo.gl/pRybiWFZc3JxNTgp7
This is one way heading uphill from the quayside to the west cliff attractions including the Pavilion theatre, hotels, the crazy golf, and Whitby Town FC have their stadium up there too.
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You know where this post is going to go, don't you? ... Yep - I've driven it! That was the same day as my last trip over the Morandi Bridge too.Bryn666 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 13:02https://maps.app.goo.gl/u6ayYjSPnm6AeFiS8 - yikes at that levels difference! Amazing.
According to the Italian Wikipedia page, work on the A26 began in 1971, and the Genoa-Ovada section that we're talking about opened in 1977:
In addition to that, I've always assumed that the A26 was built to provide much better access between Genoa (together with its port) and both Turin and the Mont Blanc Tunnel. The original carriageway of the A6 was opened in 1960, and included this famous loop-the-loop on what is now the southbound carriageway, while the original A7 was opened in 1935 and featured this craziness on what is also now the southbound carriageway.The opening of the first section provided Genoa with a more convenient and faster connection with the Ovadese and Alessandrino areas, until then connected to the city only via the then SS456 via a particularly tortuous route, and created an alternative Autostrada between Lombardy and Liguria, which compared with the more direct A7, is longer but straighter.
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Italian roads are definitely fascinating and I have regrets I've not managed to get to Italy properly yet.Owain wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:38You know where this post is going to go, don't you? ... Yep - I've driven it! That was the same day as my last trip over the Morandi Bridge too.Bryn666 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 13:02https://maps.app.goo.gl/u6ayYjSPnm6AeFiS8 - yikes at that levels difference! Amazing.
According to the Italian Wikipedia page, work on the A26 began in 1971, and the Genoa-Ovada section that we're talking about opened in 1977:
In addition to that, I've always assumed that the A26 was built to provide much better access between Genoa (together with its port) and both Turin and the Mont Blanc Tunnel. The original carriageway of the A6 was opened in 1960, and included this famous loop-the-loop on what is now the southbound carriageway, while the original A7 was opened in 1935 and featured this craziness on what is also now the southbound carriageway.The opening of the first section provided Genoa with a more convenient and faster connection with the Ovadese and Alessandrino areas, until then connected to the city only via the then SS456 via a particularly tortuous route, and created an alternative Autostrada between Lombardy and Liguria, which compared with the more direct A7, is longer but straighter.
Needless to say, I've also driven both of those too!
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I forgot to say that when I drove it, I was quite surprised to find that it was D3M.Bryn666 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 13:26Italian roads are definitely fascinating and I have regrets I've not managed to get to Italy properly yet.Owain wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:38You know where this post is going to go, don't you? ... Yep - I've driven it! That was the same day as my last trip over the Morandi Bridge too.Bryn666 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 13:02 https://maps.app.goo.gl/u6ayYjSPnm6AeFiS8 - yikes at that levels difference! Amazing.
According to the Italian Wikipedia page, work on the A26 began in 1971, and the Genoa-Ovada section that we're talking about opened in 1977:
In addition to that, I've always assumed that the A26 was built to provide much better access between Genoa (together with its port) and both Turin and the Mont Blanc Tunnel. The original carriageway of the A6 was opened in 1960, and included this famous loop-the-loop on what is now the southbound carriageway, while the original A7 was opened in 1935 and featured this craziness on what is also now the southbound carriageway.The opening of the first section provided Genoa with a more convenient and faster connection with the Ovadese and Alessandrino areas, until then connected to the city only via the then SS456 via a particularly tortuous route, and created an alternative Autostrada between Lombardy and Liguria, which compared with the more direct A7, is longer but straighter.
Needless to say, I've also driven both of those too!
The story of the A3, now A2, is one of Europe's most bizarre road histories.
Almost all of the other stretches of Autostrada in Liguria are D2M, often without hard shoulders too. I assume the gradient explains that decision, although traffic was light when I took it, and I do remember thinking that D2M with hard shoulder would have been better than D3M without.
I've also been trying to remember if I recall there being a lower speed limit than the default 130km/h. This appears to confirm that there is an 80km/h limit for cars but a 60km/h limit for HGVs, although as the 80km/h signs are obviously temporary, it might well have been 130km/h when I drove it (2015, I think).
Either way, I was in no rush on that bit!
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Quite surprised no-one has mentioned Berriedale yet. There are still two near-180-degree bends, but the top hairpin before the recent works was somewhat interesting... Not least because this is the A9, with things like mobile cranes and loaded timber lorries needing to get round here. Really it should have been bridged, like at Dunbeath, though it would be substantial bit of work.
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Yes, mountainous Italian motorways definitely stretch the definitions somewhat with their narrow lanes and no hard shoulders.Owain wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 14:13I forgot to say that when I drove it, I was quite surprised to find that it was D3M.Bryn666 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 13:26Italian roads are definitely fascinating and I have regrets I've not managed to get to Italy properly yet.Owain wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:38 You know where this post is going to go, don't you? ... Yep - I've driven it! That was the same day as my last trip over the Morandi Bridge too.
According to the Italian Wikipedia page, work on the A26 began in 1971, and the Genoa-Ovada section that we're talking about opened in 1977:
In addition to that, I've always assumed that the A26 was built to provide much better access between Genoa (together with its port) and both Turin and the Mont Blanc Tunnel. The original carriageway of the A6 was opened in 1960, and included this famous loop-the-loop on what is now the southbound carriageway, while the original A7 was opened in 1935 and featured this craziness on what is also now the southbound carriageway.
Needless to say, I've also driven both of those too!
The story of the A3, now A2, is one of Europe's most bizarre road histories.
Almost all of the other stretches of Autostrada in Liguria are D2M, often without hard shoulders too. I assume the gradient explains that decision, although traffic was light when I took it, and I do remember thinking that D2M with hard shoulder would have been better than D3M without.
I've also been trying to remember if I recall there being a lower speed limit than the default 130km/h. This appears to confirm that there is an 80km/h limit for cars but a 60km/h limit for HGVs, although as the 80km/h signs are obviously temporary, it might well have been 130km/h when I drove it (2015, I think).
Either way, I was in no rush on that bit!
Some amazing engineering all the same. Even urban roads like the Sopraelevata in Genoa are interesting.
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Re: 180 degree bends
I've been on that too - it was one of my rare attempts at using a satnav, which turned out to be completely useless, because it couldn't tell whether I was on the upper or lower deck!
This thing is incredible, but you'd be foolish to drive it at more than 20km/h.
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This is certainly a revealing hairpin.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@45.93185 ... ?entry=ttu
Turn the corner and the whole valley is in front of you.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@45.93183 ... ?entry=ttu
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@45.93185 ... ?entry=ttu
Turn the corner and the whole valley is in front of you.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@45.93183 ... ?entry=ttu