botched road markings

[FosseWay]

Unfortunately, neither the Network Rail bridge identifier sign (above the silver car at far left) nor the street name sign by the traffic lights on the far side of the road to the right of the arch are legible. Seems like a challenge for Geowizard!

[Big L]

Someone in the Reddit comments mentions High Wycombe, but not “this is in High Wycombe”.

[wallmeerkat]

Someone in the Reddit comments mentions High Wycombe, but not “this is in High Wycombe”.

Looks like it's this freshened up

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6323555 ... ?entry=ttu

[tom66]

Someone in the Reddit comments mentions High Wycombe, but not “this is in High Wycombe”.

Looks like it's this freshened up

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6323555 ... ?entry=ttu

LOL, so it's essentially the painted equivalent of a typo - "BUS AND CYCLE LANE" makes sense, "BUS END CYCLE LANE" has an entirely different meaning

[Micro The Maniac]

Recently had to turn right using this filter lane...

https://maps.app.goo.gl/TwWR7JxVx5qMnb2Q8

As I understand it, you should only enter hatched areas in exceptional cases...

[Jonathan24]

This is an impressive botch:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https% ... pqc1c1.jpg

Spotted on reddit - not mine.

I suppose if there's a bus in front of you waiting at the lights, what you'll see is indeed a BUS END

But it's a BUS END LANE, so the front of the bus clearly isn't allowed in it.

[vlad]

Judging by Street View imagery, the markings here have either been painted or repainted very recently and so aren't easy to link to (go back in time and they disappear). However, I understand the road markings in front of the yellow bus to mean "you must turn right unless you're a bus". However, the signs on the traffic lights behind the camera state that right turns are prohibited except for buses. At least it's a city-centre street and so shouldn't see much traffic that isn't already familiar with the area.

[jnty]

Judging by Street View imagery, the markings here have either been painted or repainted very recently and so aren't easy to link to (go back in time and they disappear). However, I understand the road markings in front of the yellow bus to mean "you must turn right unless you're a bus". However, the signs on the traffic lights behind the camera state that right turns are prohibited except for buses. At least it's a city-centre street and so shouldn't see much traffic that isn't already familiar with the area.

Yeah looks like nonsense to me. Should it really be an ahead arrow with 'AND BUSES'? Perhaps, although the two lanes squeeze into one very quickly and you'd probably want to be in the left lane to bypass buses waiting to turn right anyway. It should probably just be a bus lane, right?

edit: and the turn prohibition exceptions disagrees with the signed restrictions at the start of the road itself - maybe reasonable, although the painted restrictions disagree with the signed restrictions too! https://maps.app.goo.gl/ef2ffcwNMB3PtSJU6

[wallmeerkat]

Judging by Street View imagery, the markings here have either been painted or repainted very recently and so aren't easy to link to (go back in time and they disappear). However, I understand the road markings in front of the yellow bus to mean "you must turn right unless you're a bus". However, the signs on the traffic lights behind the camera state that right turns are prohibited except for buses. At least it's a city-centre street and so shouldn't see much traffic that isn't already familiar with the area.

Yeah looks like nonsense to me. Should it really be an ahead arrow with 'AND BUSES'? Perhaps, although the two lanes squeeze into one very quickly and you'd probably want to be in the left lane to bypass buses waiting to turn right anyway. It should probably just be a bus lane, right?

edit: and the turn prohibition exceptions disagrees with the signed restrictions at the start of the road itself - maybe reasonable, although the painted restrictions disagree with the signed restrictions too! https://maps.app.goo.gl/ef2ffcwNMB3PtSJU6

It's a busy lane so not always easy to see, but somewhere between 2019 - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.47767 ... ?entry=ttu and 2020 this section was patched up with tarmac - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.47768 ... ?entry=ttu - it looks like the roadworks had no idea whether it was a right arrow or an ahead arrow, so left it as a bit of a stub of an arrowhead to do either. Then between 2022 and current 2023 GSV someone completed it as a right turn arrow, but didn't change the "Except buses" (in fact they freshened it up!)

[Nathan_A_RF]

At least one set of markings here needs to go
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.94236 ... ?entry=ttu

[SteelCamel]

At least one set of markings here needs to go
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.94236 ... ?entry=ttu

It's a bit of a mess, but I can't see that you can delete any of the markings and still maintain the priorities. The main issue is that traffic coming off the main road has priority - so both side roads need a give way line to make them give way to traffic entering the other side road. This of course leaves priorities between traffic going straight out of the two side roads ambiguous. So can you delete the outer line? I'm not sure you can - since traffic coming out of the side roads needs to give way (again) to the main road. Really there isn't a good way to mark a crossroads where the priority route doesn't go straight over. The better option would be to modify the junction layout by adding an island to turn it into two t-junctions, but that costs money.

[jnty]

At least one set of markings here needs to go
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.94236 ... ?entry=ttu

It's a bit of a mess, but I can't see that you can delete any of the markings and still maintain the priorities. The main issue is that traffic coming off the main road has priority - so both side roads need a give way line to make them give way to traffic entering the other side road. This of course leaves priorities between traffic going straight out of the two side roads ambiguous. So can you delete the outer line? I'm not sure you can - since traffic coming out of the side roads needs to give way (again) to the main road. Really there isn't a good way to mark a crossroads where the priority route doesn't go straight over. The better option would be to modify the junction layout by adding an island to turn it into two t-junctions, but that costs money.

Deleting the left give way line would probably be foolish because it might not be clear to traffic going essentially straight on from the main road that they're actually performing a right turn and need to yield from traffic coming from their left. However, I think deleting the right one would be OK. Traffic coming from the main road would keep priority over both side roads. A bit of hatching on the left to allow some 'nudging out' space from that side road and reduce the speed of vehicles turning in - or even better, some pavement - wouldn't be a terrible idea though

[Nathan_A_RF]

Cyclists swap sides of the road on this bridge
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.56206 ... ?entry=ttu

[AnOrdinarySABREUser]

Cyclists swap sides of the road on this bridge
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.56206 ... ?entry=ttu

How the council managed to do that is quite impressive considering that one can observe both ends of the shared cycleway from the middle of the bridge.

[traffic-light-man]

Cyclists swap sides of the road on this bridge
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.56206 ... ?entry=ttu

I might be wrong, but it looks to me as though the intent is that the pedestrians 'give way' to cycles at each end of that short section, though of course it's botched no matter how you look at it.

Presumably it's an attempt at keeping cyclists away from the parapet, otherwise I really can't see the value in transitioning from shared use to segregated like that just for the duration of the bridge deck.

[Chris5156]

I know that dashed markings under an arched bridge are used to show the appropriate path for high vehicles to safely pass underneath, but these ones seem badly thought out to me...

[swissferry]

Came across this today and wondered what it meant. GSV history provided the explanation.

[Bryn666]

I know that dashed markings under an arched bridge are used to show the appropriate path for high vehicles to safely pass underneath, but these ones seem badly thought out to me...

Yikes! I think it's a trial for when we switch to right hand driving, Dagen H style.

[ellandback]

As previously noted in the other thread.

I suppose technically this isn't wrong, as you would use this lane for the A653, if you wanted to go all the way up to M621 j1, turn off and then right at the roundabout and down the ring road for a few miles until you get to it ... but pretty sure it was meant to say A650.

This one was fixed during the recent j26 to 27 resurfacing works.

[wallmeerkat]

As previously noted in the other thread.

I suppose technically this isn't wrong, as you would use this lane for the A653, if you wanted to go all the way up to M621 j1, turn off and then right at the roundabout and down the ring road for a few miles until you get to it ... but pretty sure it was meant to say A650.

This one was fixed during the recent j26 to 27 resurfacing works.

Looking at GSV history it only took them 10 years