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Hello,ravenbluemoon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 23:42 I've decided to turn my attention to the C Roads of York as it's a familiar place to me, and there already seems to be a list from an FOI request on the Wiki. I've set up a page with the list on it, copying another page as a template.I presume the list self-populates as I create road pages?
Feel free to change something if it isn't to standard or if I've broken something!
EDIT: I've started on a couple of roads, will try and flesh them out with photos etc. later. Probably need a quick look over by an expert to make sure they're correct. Seems like the list above self-populates, but I'm not sure if I need to create a category?
There seems to be some kind of logic going on, as you say they seem to spiral around, but then you'll get the 73xx series mixed in with the 83xx series, for example... almost as if they miss a few on the first rotation. You might be able to suss it out if you take a look at the traces map I created: Leicestershire_Council_(Class_III_roads)Euan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 08:00 Leicestershire is interesting with its system of 4-digit C road numbers which appear to be consistent with the system within Leicester itself. Skimming through the list, would it appear that the numbering is spiralled in a way that the further out the route is from Leicester the higher its leading digit?
[Leicestershire Council]] uses the C classification for its Class III Roads. The council maintains a total network of 1295km/804 miles of Class III roads.
Leicestershire uses a zone system for their Class III roads in a similar way to how the A and B roads of the country are numbered. All routes have four digit numbers, and take on the following format:
Some of the Scottish councils have done this in places. I think Highland Council seemed to have some routes change number with street name changes in Inverness and Fort William, but not elsewhere. I'm sure there were others elsewhere too, but can't remember where off the top of my head.ravenbluemoon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 22:39...but their system is weird. Each time a road changes name they dish out another number for it.
I wonder it's an urban thing, or that name changes in towns are more common, therefore more obvious? Mind you, York Council have single numbers for long routes, but they were created when they were under North Yorkshire.rileyrob wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 19:40 Some of the Scottish councils have done this in places. I think Highland Council seemed to have some routes change number with street name changes in Inverness and Fort William, but not elsewhere. I'm sure there were others elsewhere too, but can't remember where off the top of my head.
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Ooh. I need to do an FoI for Derbyshire, but I've got enough going on at the moment - I'll clear my backlog a bit first.
It would be plausible for them to have shared numbering systems. The numbering across West Yorkshire is probably inherited from the old West Yorkshire County Council, who would have allocated for the whole county as a single entity.ravenbluemoon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 23:27 Nice find. Funny how they appear on temporary roadworks signage quite often.
I had a reply back from Doncaster Council, who have kindly supplied me with a list of C roads. Apparently, according to their reply, the cost of them dealing with the FoI was estimated at £50. So thank you, taxpayers of Doncaster
One observation I've made so far is that West Yorkshire and South Yorkshire appear to have a common numbering system. I knew that the West Yorkshire councils shared numbers, but I've just traced the C92 in Doncaster - it disappears over the border into North Yorkshire, only to reappear as the C92 in Wakefield! Co-incidence? Maybe... but I've put all the numbers collected so far into a spreadsheet (5 of 9 councils) and it seems very plausible as barring an odd one, they aren't repeated unless they cross a border.
However Doncaster is in South Yorkshire, who you would expect to have had a separate scheme. Unless it was all inherited from the West Riding?Chris5156 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 09:24It would be plausible for them to have shared numbering systems. The numbering across West Yorkshire is probably inherited from the old West Yorkshire County Council, who would have allocated for the whole county as a single entity.ravenbluemoon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 23:27 Nice find. Funny how they appear on temporary roadworks signage quite often.
I had a reply back from Doncaster Council, who have kindly supplied me with a list of C roads. Apparently, according to their reply, the cost of them dealing with the FoI was estimated at £50. So thank you, taxpayers of Doncaster
One observation I've made so far is that West Yorkshire and South Yorkshire appear to have a common numbering system. I knew that the West Yorkshire councils shared numbers, but I've just traced the C92 in Doncaster - it disappears over the border into North Yorkshire, only to reappear as the C92 in Wakefield! Co-incidence? Maybe... but I've put all the numbers collected so far into a spreadsheet (5 of 9 councils) and it seems very plausible as barring an odd one, they aren't repeated unless they cross a border.
Oh, no, sorry - I only meant that roads in WY would all at one time have been numbered by the former WYCC; South Yorkshire would probably have had its own separate system. Though it’s interesting that there may have been some coordination where roads crossed the boundary between the two.Chris Bertram wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 13:36However Doncaster is in South Yorkshire, who you would expect to have had a separate scheme. Unless it was all inherited from the West Riding?Chris5156 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 09:24It would be plausible for them to have shared numbering systems. The numbering across West Yorkshire is probably inherited from the old West Yorkshire County Council, who would have allocated for the whole county as a single entity.ravenbluemoon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 23:27 Nice find. Funny how they appear on temporary roadworks signage quite often.
I had a reply back from Doncaster Council, who have kindly supplied me with a list of C roads. Apparently, according to their reply, the cost of them dealing with the FoI was estimated at £50. So thank you, taxpayers of Doncaster
One observation I've made so far is that West Yorkshire and South Yorkshire appear to have a common numbering system. I knew that the West Yorkshire councils shared numbers, but I've just traced the C92 in Doncaster - it disappears over the border into North Yorkshire, only to reappear as the C92 in Wakefield! Co-incidence? Maybe... but I've put all the numbers collected so far into a spreadsheet (5 of 9 councils) and it seems very plausible as barring an odd one, they aren't repeated unless they cross a border.
