The Great C Road hunt!
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Re: The Great C Road hunt!
Apart from listing every motorway in the country they do have a motley collection of C, YM, YSL and YU roads. The C roads are annoyingly 8 digit, and seem to be a copy of the code from the NSG. Haven't a clue about what Class the Y roads are, they'll be something to check out when I'm back off holiday in a week or so.
*West and Northnorthnorthamptonshire, Rutland also got FoI'd.
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Elsewhere, I've traced West Northamptonshire, and waiting for North Northamptonshire to come back to me.
Rutland directed me to "Find my Street" so I replied, asking if they knew the numbers. FoI Officer asked the Highways Department, who didn't know. However - I've done some digging on the internet, and found a few roads - the first one was an unrelated FoI about a bridleway that mentioned the C6305... confirming that they use Leicestershire's numbering system. Doing some more random googling of road numbers that venture over the border, I found a couple of PDF leaflets about walks by Discover Rutland - two of the village walks mention the C5305 (connects with Leics) and the C9316 somewhere near Exton, but don't know which road it is.
Final random source is a website detailing traffic accidents in 2011 (not going to provide link as my browser said the site was unsecure!) - this made mentions of about a dozen C roads in Rutland in the reports - the C8324 had a lot of accidents in 2011!
That's as best as I can do with Rutland, at some point I'll sort some map traces and pages for what I know.
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Currently I'm going through the list for Worcestershire (I wasn't going to but fell down the rabbit hole while connecting across the border into Warwickshire and Solihull!) - I had noticed that they are generally 4 digits starting with a "2". Comparing with the list for Herefordshire that exists, it seems like the two counties had their own numbering systems prior to 1974. Then they got merged as the County of Hereford and Worcester - and to avoid duplication Herefordshire roads were prefixed with a "1" and Worcestershire with a "2". Since they went their seperate ways in 1998, they've kept to the H&W numbering.
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I've been keeping tabs on my own progress with a map that I've been colouring in as I go. It wasn't meant for public consumption so could be confusing, but I've attached below (click for better resolution):
Red: Authorites/areas I've completed (Pink are "in progress")
Purple: Authorities/areas completed by others
Lilac: Authorities mostly complete - there may be either a fair few of the pages/traces done, and/or a list on the Wiki
Yellow: We have a list on the Wiki, but we don't know the road numbers
Green: A couple of roads on the Wiki so far.
Light Grey: Nothing on the Wiki (but there's details available, see the Great C Road Hunt page on the Wiki)
Dark Grey: Nothing on the Wiki and we don't have any data available. It might be because the council doesn't have details, or won't let us have it, or the link from 9 years ago is broken. I'm still waiting for East Yorkshire to get their backsides into gear and update their GIS Map, as promised!
I've also worked out some facts on a spreadsheet, in short:
Class III roads traced and on our Wiki: 40200km (24969 miles), 9162 roads, of which:
-Scotland: 10131km (6292 miles) , 2430 roads - complete
-Northern Ireland: 4548km (2425 miles), 528 roads - complete
-Wales: 149km (93 miles), 65 roads - still loads to do
-England: 25320km (15727 miles), 6103 roads - plenty done, still lots of gaps.
There's still plenty to do, and maybe some easy counties to attempt if someone new wants to try. There's also a load of route descriptions and photos etc. to add to ones already done. I've done just shy of 15000km of map tracing over almost 3500 roads, so I'm going to have a break until the new year
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...having said this, Hawes in the North Riding or some place roundabout there I vaguely recall seeing one
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That'll probably be the C32. There's a pretty famous sign for it as you leave Hawes. Actually I'm surprised a photo hasn't found its way in the road's gallery yet.
That part of Wensleydale is peppered with Class III routes, like the C34 - but they rarely appear on signage.
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From the SABRE Wiki: C32 %28North Yorkshire%29 :
The C32 is a road of two parts, both famous road climbs.
Fleet Moss is a hill pass renowned for being the highest paved road in Yorkshire, reaching a summit of 588 m [1929 ft], connecting Wharfedale and Wensleydale. Although the shortest route between Wharfedale's B6160 and Hawes, the recommended route for drivers is to continue along the B6160 to the A684. A narrow road with low traffic, and an epic climb to boot, this road is very popular for cyclists, although sometimes narrow
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Monmouthshire is strange in that it uses "R" prefixes for Class III roads, and "C" for unclassified. Same goes for Newport and Torfaen, which (presumably) share the numbering scheme.
*Or however you wish to call it
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From the SABRE Wiki: ZR138 %28Monmouthshire%29 :
The ZR138 is Newport Road in Caldicot. It includes the pedestrianised section along the main shopping area in the town centre. This might explain why the route gained a "Z" in its number.