M1 J13-16 ALR smart motorway

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M4 Cardiff wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 13:34 Is anyone here interested in geology? It is fascinating to observe the new cuts through the soils all the way along this section.
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darkcape wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 23:46
owen b wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 20:40

Annoyingly there's now central reservation works (barriers I think) J12-13. This section was only smartified a decade ago, I'm surprised there's works here.
Suspect this is ahead of conversion of J10-13 to ALR
I hadn't thought of that. I sincerely hope ALR goes ahead for J10-13 and is not held up too much by whatever smart motorway reviews have been going on. This stretch badly needs it, and it would bring consistent full time four lane running all the way from the M25 to the M6.
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There is an information board that says something about 'bridge deck repairs' just south of J13. I think that's what this issue is there.
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M4 Cardiff wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:52 There is an information board that says something about 'bridge deck repairs' just south of J13. I think that's what this issue is there.
Thanks, but I think that's a different roadworks scheme. There have been works at J13 for some time. I was surprised to find central reservation works starting well south of J13 as I was driving southbound on Sunday evening.
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Scheme is now complete.
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KILLER KNIGHT wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 07:44 Scheme is now complete.
finally... no roadworks on the M1 until J10-13 starts getting concrete barrier, new street lamps and all the rest.
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EpicChef wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 09:33
KILLER KNIGHT wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 07:44 Scheme is now complete.
finally... no roadworks on the M1 until J10-13 starts getting concrete barrier, new street lamps and all the rest.
That’s DHSR isn’t it?
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EpicChef wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 09:33
KILLER KNIGHT wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 07:44 Scheme is now complete.
finally... no roadworks on the M1 until J10-13 starts getting concrete barrier, new street lamps and all the rest.
Actually, the closures got updated and this isn’t the last of them. It’s about a fortnight or so from completion.
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I came down the M1 from 16 - 15 on Sunday. In the run up to 16 there are (physical) signs showing a lane drop, but no actual lane drop. The VMS signs were saying 60, but it basically looked done, other than a few random yellow studs instead of lane markings at one point before J15.
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16-15 had cones by Monday morning. I turned off at 16 but could see them ahead.
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Now fully open according to today's National Highways press release :
https://nationalhighways.co.uk/article/ ... motorists/
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Hang on, does that mean...

FINALLY NO ROADWORKS ON THE M1!

Sorry, this is the first time after about 15 years.
Give me a chance to celebrate.
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EpicChef wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 13:39 Hang on, does that mean...

FINALLY NO ROADWORKS ON THE M1!

Sorry, this is the first time after about 15 years.
Give me a chance to celebrate.
Yep, it means I can get to Scotland via M1/M6 only meeting roadworks through the West Midlands and from the M62 to Wigan :D . Most of Luton to the M62 is now minimum four lanes :D .
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owen b wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 14:05
EpicChef wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 13:39 Hang on, does that mean...

FINALLY NO ROADWORKS ON THE M1!

Sorry, this is the first time after about 15 years.
Give me a chance to celebrate.
Yep, it means I can get to Scotland via M1/M6 only meeting roadworks through the West Midlands and from the M62 to Wigan :D . Most of Luton to the M62 is now minimum four lanes :D .
They'll find a way to ruin that for you, don't worry.
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Bryn666 wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 17:04
owen b wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 14:05
EpicChef wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 13:39 Hang on, does that mean...

FINALLY NO ROADWORKS ON THE M1!

Sorry, this is the first time after about 15 years.
Give me a chance to celebrate.
Yep, it means I can get to Scotland via M1/M6 only meeting roadworks through the West Midlands and from the M62 to Wigan :D . Most of Luton to the M62 is now minimum four lanes :D .
They'll find a way to ruin that for you, don't worry.
Why the doom and gloom?
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EpicChef wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 13:39 Hang on, does that mean...

FINALLY NO ROADWORKS ON THE M1!

Sorry, this is the first time after about 15 years.
Give me a chance to celebrate.
Sorry to disappoint but the M1 isn’t roadwork free, they started replacing the steel barrier with concrete and replacing the lighting J42 to J43 which then continues onto the M621, it’s on the 5 lane section between the M62 and M621 so it’s 4 lanes each way with a 50 limit and average speed cameras, it causes big queues in rush hour.
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NICK 647063 wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 21:01
EpicChef wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 13:39 Hang on, does that mean...

FINALLY NO ROADWORKS ON THE M1!

Sorry, this is the first time after about 15 years.
Give me a chance to celebrate.
Sorry to disappoint but the M1 isn’t roadwork free, they started replacing the steel barrier with concrete and replacing the lighting J42 to J43 which then continues onto the M621, it’s on the 5 lane section between the M62 and M621 so it’s 4 lanes each way with a 50 limit and average speed cameras, it causes big queues in rush hour.
How does 4 lanes cause queues?
I’m not going that way for some time, but at least there are no major extended works that carry on for miles and miles and miles
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EpicChef wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 14:31
NICK 647063 wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 21:01
EpicChef wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 13:39 Hang on, does that mean...

FINALLY NO ROADWORKS ON THE M1!

Sorry, this is the first time after about 15 years.
Give me a chance to celebrate.
Sorry to disappoint but the M1 isn’t roadwork free, they started replacing the steel barrier with concrete and replacing the lighting J42 to J43 which then continues onto the M621, it’s on the 5 lane section between the M62 and M621 so it’s 4 lanes each way with a 50 limit and average speed cameras, it causes big queues in rush hour.
How does 4 lanes cause queues?
I’m not going that way for some time, but at least there are no major extended works that carry on for miles and miles and miles
I’m guessing there were 5 lanes for a reason, so only 4 may well cause problems.
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EpicChef wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 14:31
NICK 647063 wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 21:01
EpicChef wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 13:39 Hang on, does that mean...

FINALLY NO ROADWORKS ON THE M1!

Sorry, this is the first time after about 15 years.
Give me a chance to celebrate.
Sorry to disappoint but the M1 isn’t roadwork free, they started replacing the steel barrier with concrete and replacing the lighting J42 to J43 which then continues onto the M621, it’s on the 5 lane section between the M62 and M621 so it’s 4 lanes each way with a 50 limit and average speed cameras, it causes big queues in rush hour.
How does 4 lanes cause queues?
I’m not going that way for some time, but at least there are no major extended works that carry on for miles and miles and miles
Because the M1/M621 merge so that’s both motorways with 3 lanes so 6 lanes normally become 5 which works for a couple of miles where 2 lanes leave to the M62 and the M1 continues….. so 6 lanes becoming 4 causes long delays, it’s an extremely busy section of the M1 and to be honest in normal times with 5 lanes each way it’s congested in the peak periods so with 4 lanes you can only imagine.
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Interesting. I'd only question the usage of the word 'queues'. What's being described here is congestion, or over-capacity, on a mainline. To me, queueing is when an undue wait is experienced, caused by an interchange or intersection ahead. Perhaps this is just a technicality, since the experience is similar, or perhaps I'm being pedantic, or perhaps my usage is wrong.
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