M20 Operation Brock

[Chris5156]

And... its back!

https://nationalhighways.co.uk/our-work ... d-tonight/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60821266

It should probably have been called Operation Hokey Cokey

[Bryn666]

And... its back!

https://nationalhighways.co.uk/our-work ... d-tonight/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60821266

It should probably have been called Operation Hokey Cokey

I somewhat seriously but also sarcastically suggested that it would be cheaper to admit defeat and just run the M20 as a D2 for the next few years and convert the eastbound carriageway to a stacking zone. The TM companies must be making a fortune off the back of this.

[Ritchie333]

And... its back!

The A28 was also closed last night, which means I had to get back from band rehearsal in Canterbury (too much gear to lug on the train) via the A251 doing an average of about 20mph and coming to a stop when two Arctics had to pass each other.

[chaseracer]

Of course, if we do ever have a Brexit meltdown, all the government has to do is issue a royal proclamation, and bang, you can have an emergency lorry park, and no public objections (all overruled).

When the emergency subsides, I can’t imagine it would be difficult to make it permanent.

Pretty much how Heathrow happened...

[Phil]

Operation Brock looks like its not enough!

The 2 contraflow lanes heading coast bound have also had to be closed to stack lorries it would seem!

Not a good sign given the looming Easter holidays!

Also what is it with NH turning off their cameras when traffic is queuing! I get they would need to do so at the site of an incident, but every camera for miles either side?

[A303Chris]

A new consultation has started by NH with regards a statutory instrument to carry Brock on past December this year.

In the blurb it states:

It was first deployed in December 2020 and has been activated 5 times:

once in December 2020 to May 2021
3 times in 2022, between March to June, July to September and December to early January 2023
once in May 2023 to June 2023 (as of June 2023)

So that's 6 months on 2021, 6 months last year and 2 months so far this year. Does seem a permanent solution should be looked at.

[Bryn666]

A new consultation has started by NH with regards a statutory instrument to carry Brock on past December this year.

In the blurb it states:

It was first deployed in December 2020 and has been activated 5 times:

once in December 2020 to May 2021
3 times in 2022, between March to June, July to September and December to early January 2023
once in May 2023 to June 2023 (as of June 2023)

So that's 6 months on 2021, 6 months last year and 2 months so far this year. Does seem a permanent solution should be looked at.

That would require the government to admit certain things don't work, though.

[Chris5156]

A new consultation has started by NH with regards a statutory instrument to carry Brock on past December this year.

In the blurb it states:

It was first deployed in December 2020 and has been activated 5 times:

once in December 2020 to May 2021
3 times in 2022, between March to June, July to September and December to early January 2023
once in May 2023 to June 2023 (as of June 2023)

So that's 6 months on 2021, 6 months last year and 2 months so far this year. Does seem a permanent solution should be looked at.

That would require the government to admit certain things don't work, though.

It’s also something that has been explored countless times in the last 20 years without a satisfactory solution ever being found.

[Bryn666]

A new consultation has started by NH with regards a statutory instrument to carry Brock on past December this year.

In the blurb it states:



So that's 6 months on 2021, 6 months last year and 2 months so far this year. Does seem a permanent solution should be looked at.

That would require the government to admit certain things don't work, though.

It’s also something that has been explored countless times in the last 20 years without a satisfactory solution ever being found.

I did post previously that the quickest (but not best) fix is to make the M20 between J8 and J9 a bona fide D2 with concrete barriers (otherwise it's going to be a permanent 50 and then everyone will cry) on one side and then you've got a spare carriageway, but when you don't require that space you've then got half a motorway sitting redundant. This does resolve the need to set out TM at great expense (so that'll be vetoed then, too many completion bonuses to be had there).

I mean, the obvious answer is to not sever ourselves from the rest of the continent on ideological grounds, in which case you only need emergency measures for when the French go on strike

[Vierwielen]

That would require the government to admit certain things don't work, though.

It’s also something that has been explored countless times in the last 20 years without a satisfactory solution ever being found.

I did post previously that the quickest (but not best) fix is to make the M20 between J8 and J9 a bona fide D2 with concrete barriers (otherwise it's going to be a permanent 50 and then everyone will cry) on one side and then you've got a spare carriageway, but when you don't require that space you've then got half a motorway sitting redundant. This does resolve the need to set out TM at great expense (so that'll be vetoed then, too many completion bonuses to be had there).

I mean, the obvious answer is to not sever ourselves from the rest of the continent on ideological grounds, in which case you only need emergency measures for when the French go on strike

... or when the Continent is cut off due to bad weather.