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jackal wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 08:05
The A34 one is like the New Tees Crossing - a bit of a mystery scheme that isn't mentioned in the RIS2 document (not as RIS3 pipeline or anything else).
With the NTC that may be because it is local authority developed, though it was always expected to be handed over. With the A34 I think it's just that it was speculative and post-RIS3, and announced as a sop after the expressway was cancelled.
The Tees Crossing came out of a proposal made by the Tees Valley Combined Authority that asked for funding through Major Roads Scheme rather than being a National Highways Project in RIS2 or 3. https://teesvalley-ca.gov.uk/projects/t ... -crossing/
One of the main differentiators from the A34 is that mostly runs across disused industrial land so the level of approval locally is high. Additionally it will act to separate local traffic along the Stockton-Middlesbrough-Portrack axis from the strategic traffic on the A19. It also widens the A19 overpass to allow 3 lanes of traffic instead of the 2 at present.
Herned wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 15:54
£110m for Bisham on the A404! What can they possibly be planning that would cost that much? Does it need more than a basic dumbbell?
Thanks to the processes of design given the surrounding landscape and with construction inflation even a basic dumbbell you can easily spend £110m... the A50 JCB junction was over £40m and that's fairly basic too but almost on a flat field.
Looking at Bisham, you'd need considerable diversion of the A308, and the A404 itself would need adjustment either side. It's on paper an easy job but I bet it'd be riddled with earthworks challenges.
Bryn Terminally cynical, unimpressed, and nearly Middle Age already. She said life was like a motorway; dull, grey, and long.
GSJs nowadays often do end up costing around £100m but there's usually some obvious reason, like a lot of structural content or significant mainline realignment. I'm really struggling to see how they could come up with such a price for this:
jackal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 16:45
GSJs nowadays often do end up costing around £100m but there's usually some obvious reason, like a lot of structural content or significant mainline realignment. I'm really struggling to see how they could come up with such a price for this:
A404 Bisham - Copy.PNG
(From the 2015 consultation report.)
Maybe that small A308 realignment is being built out of platinum chippings or something.
It gives the impression the road needs lifting to meet the bridge so presumably a lot of the cost is keeping the old road running alongside as well as building up the new one?
I mean I could just say "National Highways" but I don't want another rebuke from anyone do I
Bryn Terminally cynical, unimpressed, and nearly Middle Age already. She said life was like a motorway; dull, grey, and long.
