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Gareth wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 22:16 Never seen that in this country. It's pretty common abroad.
Yeah, saw this a lot in Barcelona. I assume its either to enable street cleaning, or to prevent long term parking, or perhaps both!
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Gareth wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 22:16 Never seen that in this country. It's pretty common abroad.
It used to be fairly common 50+ years ago - on roads only wide enough for parking on one side it kept it fair for property owners - that's probably before yellow lines were introduced but there were still parking restrictions.
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Ruperts Trooper wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 07:50
Gareth wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 22:16 Never seen that in this country. It's pretty common abroad.
It used to be fairly common 50+ years ago - on roads only wide enough for parking on one side it kept it fair for property owners - that's probably before yellow lines were introduced but there were still parking restrictions.
Another variation was parking on one side from 1st-15th of the month, and the other side from 16th-end of the month.
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Re: Double Yellow Lines

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This lane is barely wide enough for a vehicle to drive down it,let alone park.

31 Devonshire Pl
https://maps.app.goo.gl/QLdWokGfMYtgajou7

This lane nearby has a similar situation, but no yellow lines.

45 Garden Ln
https://maps.app.goo.gl/QtLCbq44DHeS9x6q9

Some similar situations:
10 Poonah Ln
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jmHNHpBtxLFBPUUb8
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And ugly they are too. We really need to just use a "No Parking/Waiting' sign at the entrance of small back lanes such as those, as is normally found on the continent.
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Gareth wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 22:37 And ugly they are too. We really need to just use a "No Parking/Waiting' sign at the entrance of small back lanes such as those, as is normally found on the continent.
Restricted Parking Zones are the future, no parking anywhere except where specifically allowed. You mark out the parking places, not the restrictions.

Quite why we didn't do this in the early days when car ownership was low and before footway parking became an endemic problem is anyone's guess.
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Ruperts Trooper wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 07:50
Gareth wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 22:16 Never seen that in this country. It's pretty common abroad.
It used to be fairly common 50+ years ago - on roads only wide enough for parking on one side it kept it fair for property owners - that's probably before yellow lines were introduced but there were still parking restrictions.
Pre-Worboys the signs had a semi circular flap which hinged up or down to give two alternative faces. These were usually "No Waiting This Side Today" in black on yellow and limited waiting, such as "Waiting Limited To 30 Minutes In Any Hour" in white on blue. Presumably a police officer would change them over each morning.
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Re: Double Yellow Lines

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Bryn666 wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 13:32
Gareth wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 22:37 And ugly they are too. We really need to just use a "No Parking/Waiting' sign at the entrance of small back lanes such as those, as is normally found on the continent.
Restricted Parking Zones are the future, no parking anywhere except where specifically allowed. You mark out the parking places, not the restrictions.

Quite why we didn't do this in the early days when car ownership was low and before footway parking became an endemic problem is anyone's guess.
Maybe combine this with 'restricted speed limit' zones to create a Continental style 'agglomération' zone. In urban areas, no driving over 20mph unless otherwise signed, no waiting unless in a marked bay (or a 'P zone', say on a cul-de-sac estate) & no vehicles anywhere but the carriageway unless accessing a private residence or crossing a continuous footway.

Would allow a convenient time to change speed limits to km/h, which has been delayed 50 years at this point, but that won't happen under the imperial (🥁) thumb of Mr Rees-Mogg, maybe now furlongs to the thirteenth of the time between sunrise and sunset?
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Another narrow lane with double yellow lines https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black- ... s-23270326 It looks a bit of a muggers paradise to me.
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This narrow lane in Brecon only has single yellow lines and parking is not allowed between 8am and 9am and 3pm and 4pm, which are the times that the schools nearby start and finish. If anyone parked along there outside these times, they'd block the road. Why aren't they double yellow lines?
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Octaviadriver wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 09:45 If anyone parked along there outside these times, they'd block the road.
Have you been outside a school at drop-off time before? :lol:
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Bryn666 wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 13:32
Gareth wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 22:37 And ugly they are too. We really need to just use a "No Parking/Waiting' sign at the entrance of small back lanes such as those, as is normally found on the continent.
Restricted Parking Zones are the future, no parking anywhere except where specifically allowed. You mark out the parking places, not the restrictions.
I agree in urban areas where you can set up defined zones....
Quite why we didn't do this in the early days when car ownership was low and before footway parking became an endemic problem is anyone's guess.
The problem with that is that you end up with roads like this one in Hertford, which is a quiet relic of the A414 - barely used and perfectly safe to park in, but really not worth the effort of putting signs up top designate bays or to apply lots of road markings to create the bays. The road is empty most of the time, but on a Saturday morning from 8:30 to 10:00 prior to the pandemic, it was one of the best parking areas for the Panshanger Park Run, which has now relocated to the other side of the park. If we went down the road of positively marking parking places everywhere, we'd have many rural areas where roadside parking is safe but you wouldn't be able to do so because there were no bays marked out.

I was going to site the access road to Kennack Sands in Cornwall because I remember parking on it, but a quick look at Streetview shows DYLs with people parking behind the lines, not quite as I remembered it.

In short, we went for what was then a much simpler approach - you can park where it is safe to do so unless we tell you otherwise by clearly defining where you can't park.

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