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Steven wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 15:06
c2R wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 12:28 I went into a number of new and second hand bookshops in Dublin yesterday, but came away with zero maps :( Where are they all hiding!
OS Ireland maps definitely haven't survived anywhere near as well as their OSGB counterparts. Each map we have on SABRE Maps is definitely a hard-won trophy.

I wonder if it's something to do with the different paper they were printed on?
It's very possible, and that I guess many are sold with paper covers rather than card covers at a slightly lower price point, so perhaps they've considered to be more disposable?

Interestingly, as an aisde, Easons did have a large selection of brand new maps, and an interesting mix of current and previous editions of many of the sheets - but no discount for the older versions (I did ask!)
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c2R wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 15:18
Steven wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 15:06
c2R wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 12:28 I went into a number of new and second hand bookshops in Dublin yesterday, but came away with zero maps :( Where are they all hiding!
OS Ireland maps definitely haven't survived anywhere near as well as their OSGB counterparts. Each map we have on SABRE Maps is definitely a hard-won trophy.

I wonder if it's something to do with the different paper they were printed on?
It's very possible, and that I guess many are sold with paper covers rather than card covers at a slightly lower price point, so perhaps they've considered to be more disposable?

Interestingly, as an aisde, Easons did have a large selection of brand new maps, and an interesting mix of current and previous editions of many of the sheets - but no discount for the older versions (I did ask!)
....took a trip up to Belfast today and got a 1:50k First series of sheet 26, in a nice plastic pocket, which looks to come out of copyright in ten years time....
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Another Irish One Inch sheet has just been uploaded to the 1954 layer. This one is the OSNI Popular Sheet 2, North Antrim.

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Steven, the map is captioned as North Down
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AndyB wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 15:48 Steven, the map is captioned as North Down
Should be fixed now - thanks for letting me know!
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In amongst all the OSGB One Inch sheets that have gone live today, there's also a couple of OSNI Popular Edition sheets:

One Inch 1950
* Sheet 11 (Mourne Mountains) NI Popular Revision 3287

One Inch 1952
* Sheet 10 (Mid-Down) NI Popular Revision 3391
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And to go along with all the OSGB sheets that have gone live today from 1949, there's a single OSNI sheet:

* Sheet 6 (East Tyrone) Revision 3284


This was a complete nightmare to scan flat - OSNI cloth sheets seem to have been printed on much thicker material than their OSGB counterparts, which is really wierd as OSGB did all the OSNI printing! Which does of course add to the mystery of why Irish OS maps (of both flavours) don't seem to have survived as well as OSGB sheets.
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In with all the GB maps uploaded today to the One Inch 1947 layer is one of the OSI Third Edition sheets from County Cork, Sheet 192 (Glengarrif).

It looks incredibly old-fashioned alongside the OSGB (and OSNI) One Inch sheet of the time, and for good reason - it's originally from the pre-independance days, with the revision code of "6.06 9.07" which indicates it's from 1907, but the publication date is from 1947, showing that probably not a lot changed in 40 years in this corner of Ireland!
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Steven wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 13:25 In with all the GB maps uploaded today to the One Inch 1947 layer is one of the OSI Third Edition sheets from County Cork, Sheet 192 (Glengarrif).

It looks incredibly old-fashioned alongside the OSGB (and OSNI) One Inch sheet of the time, and for good reason - it's originally from the pre-independance days, with the revision code of "6.06 9.07" which indicates it's from 1907, but the publication date is from 1947, showing that probably not a lot changed in 40 years in this corner of Ireland!
Oh wow, 40 years is a long time without doing a major revision to a map. Will definitely have a look at this one
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frediculous_biggs wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 20:53
Steven wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 13:25 In with all the GB maps uploaded today to the One Inch 1947 layer is one of the OSI Third Edition sheets from County Cork, Sheet 192 (Glengarrif).

It looks incredibly old-fashioned alongside the OSGB (and OSNI) One Inch sheet of the time, and for good reason - it's originally from the pre-independance days, with the revision code of "6.06 9.07" which indicates it's from 1907, but the publication date is from 1947, showing that probably not a lot changed in 40 years in this corner of Ireland!
Oh wow, 40 years is a long time without doing a major revision to a map. Will definitely have a look at this one
While the urban areas were updated, post independence the outlying country areas were not comprehensively updated.
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bothar wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 23:46 While the urban areas were updated, post independence the outlying country areas were not comprehensively updated.
That's very true - OSI just didn't seem to be very interested in the One Inch scale; and their primary mapping series was the Half Inch - which is why there's a lot more of Ireland available at that scale! Half Inch sheets saw a lot more development in style and changes too until you get to the later One Inch District sheets.
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Does that also mean there were no Quarter-Inch maps of Northern Ireland??
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Berk wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 19:38 Does that also mean there were no Quarter-Inch maps of Northern Ireland??
If you go and look at the SABRE Maps Sheetfinder you'll have your answer...

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