RCS to places other that a town or city
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(Ferry Traffic) sub heading with ferries for all three destinations.
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It's worth remembering that roads such as the A75 sign the next village on all RCS as well as the control destination.
However, a couple of RCS without a settlement on them:
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However, a couple of RCS without a settlement on them:
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This one (which is on the M3) has seven motorways listed - the M3 plus six others.the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 13:12 I should have remembered this one with three motorways listed.
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Not an RCS though!Vierwielen wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 22:14This one (which is on the M3) has seven motorways listed - the M3 plus six others.the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 13:12 I should have remembered this one with three motorways listed.
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I think there are a few listed on the southbound A1M around Doncaster.
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This one?Rillington wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 13:12I think there are a few listed on the southbound A1M around Doncaster.
the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 13:12I should have remembered this one with three motorways listed.
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Arguably none of the five places on this RCS on the B1340 in Northumberland are towns. The biggest place on the list, Seahouses, seems to sometimes be described as a 'small town' and sometimes (as on Wikipedia) a 'large village'. It's not on this list of Northumberland market towns and I'd lean towards village rather than town for it.
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The Trossachs is an area of forests, hills and lochs. Distance shown is probably to Trossachs Pier.
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Channel Tunnel (and this is unique with all ports being the same distance).
Woolwich Ferry and Docklands.
Woolwich Ferry and Docklands.
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As I alluded to, regional destinations being signed with mileages are fairly commonplace outside the UK.
França/Francia 54 in Catalonia, going north on the A2 (E15) at Exit 6 towards the French border with Spain.
IIRC, France signs 'Barcalone' consistently from the turnoff on the A75 for Montpellier. Maybe they should just reciprocate and patch those references up with 'Espagne'.
Apparently in Australia, the state boundaries are normally so far away from anywhere of note, that the RCSs only mention the state and the distance to the border, rather than any primary destinations within it.
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That’s a nation, not a region, though, and has the important distinction that the border is clearly defined and widely understood. You can say it’s 60km until you officially arrive in France, but you can’t say it’s 60 miles until you officially arrive in The NORTH.Osthagen wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 13:54As I alluded to, regional destinations being signed with mileages are fairly commonplace outside the UK.
França/Francia 54 in Catalonia, going north on the A2 (E15) at Exit 6 towards the French border with Spain.
IIRC, France signs 'Barcalone' consistently from the turnoff on the A75 for Montpellier. Maybe they should just reciprocate and patch those references up with 'Espagne'.
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Looe is a town, surely? that makes it Stations 1 Towns 1 Villages 2the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 13:46 B3254
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That's a good question. Unlike city and village there isn't a clearly defined threshold for town. I'd consider a town needs a regular market with some form of market hall or market place to hold it in, or plenty of shops. I don't remember Looe having either (although it was 15 years ago).fchd wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 21:01Looe is a town, surely? that makes it Stations 1 Towns 1 Villages 2the cheesecake man wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 13:46 B3254
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Wikipedia disagrees:
Looe (/ˈluː/; Cornish: Logh,[1] lit. 'deep water inlet') is a coastal town and civil parish in south-east Cornwall, England, with a population of 5,280 at the 2011 census.[2][3]
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IIRC the classic definitions, as applied to England and Wales anyway are:. Hamlet - a small settlement, no church; Village - has a parish church (Anglican); Town - as per village but has a market charter. A city has a charter saying it's a city (exceptions apply for cities from Time Immemorial), and if you forget to protect that charter you become a plan old town again, just ask Rochester.
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Yeah those Spanish signs are just shorthand for French Border. Just like you‘ll find RCS to SA border in Australia’s Northern Territory. The latter is particularly bad at signposting anything beyond their borders; NSW on the other hand has plenty of RCS with Brisbane or Melbourne on them.Chris5156 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 16:36 That’s a nation, not a region, though, and has the important distinction that the border is clearly defined and widely understood. You can say it’s 60km until you officially arrive in France, but you can’t say it’s 60 miles until you officially arrive in The NORTH.
The occasional border post aside, you won’t find regions signposted a lot on the continent, let alone with distances. What you’ll see occasionally is that ferries to islands are signposted, but that gets you the distance to the ferry port. In the Alps they’ll often signpost the name of a side valley off the road running through the main valley, but they won’t appear on any RCS then.
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Chris Bertram wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:52 IIRC the classic definitions, as applied to England and Wales anyway are:. Hamlet - a small settlement, no church; Village - has a parish church (Anglican); Town - as per village but has a market charter. A city has a charter saying it's a city (exceptions apply for cities from Time Immemorial), and if you forget to protect that charter you become a plan old town again, just ask Rochester.
Historically any place that had an Anglican Cathedral was classed as a city hence St David's, population 1,841 is a city and a significant destination for pilgrims. Liverpool was an odd man out as it had no Cathedral but it did have a Bishop of Liverpool appointed in 1880. It was 1904 before they started building and 1978 before it was completed.
Then there is Sheffield Cathedral which until 1914 was a Parish Church until 1904 when a new diocese was created in 1904 which elevated it to city status.
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Sheffield became a city in 1893. Leeds became a city on the same day but still doesn't have an Anglican cathedral despite there being a Bishop Of Leeds since 2014.KeithW wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 17:20 Historically any place that had an Anglican Cathedral was classed as a city hence St David's, population 1,841 is a city and a significant destination for pilgrims. Liverpool was an odd man out as it had no Cathedral but it did have a Bishop of Liverpool appointed in 1880. It was 1904 before they started building and 1978 before it was completed.
Then there is Sheffield Cathedral which until 1914 was a Parish Church until 1904 when a new diocese was created in 1904 which elevated it to city status.
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I've been happily sitting back and enjoying this thread but then remembered there is one I pass quite often. Pratt's Bottom 1 It appears from slightly further away from the other direction but only on an ADS not a RCS. It is also the name of the roundabout junction on the road ahead. Certainly not a town though.
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"In English law, time immemorial ends and legal memory begins at 1189 A.D., the end of the reign of King Henry II" (WP). The cities since Time Immorial in England and Wales are:KeithW wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 17:20Historically any place that had an Anglican Cathedral was classed as a city hence St David's, population 1,841 is a city and a significant destination for pilgrims. Liverpool was an odd man out as it had no Cathedral but it did have a Bishop of Liverpool appointed in 1880. It was 1904 before they started building and 1978 before it was completed.Chris Bertram wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:52 IIRC the classic definitions, as applied to England and Wales anyway are:. Hamlet - a small settlement, no church; Village - has a parish church (Anglican); Town - as per village but has a market charter. A city has a charter saying it's a city (exceptions apply for cities from Time Immemorial), and if you forget to protect that charter you become a plan old town again, just ask Rochester.
Then there is Sheffield Cathedral which until 1914 was a Parish Church until 1904 when a new diocese was created in 1904 which elevated it to city status.
Bangor (Wales); Bath; Canterbury; Carlisle; Chichester; Coventry; Durham; Ely; Exeter; Hereford; Lichfield; Lincoln; City of London; Norwich; Rochester (status lost in 1998); Salisbury; Wells; Winchester; Worcester; York
Other cities with cathedrals were also granted letters patent conferring City status, and of course some more recent cities have no cathedral. Birmingham's Anglican cathedral (St Philip') was also a parish church until the CofE created a new diocese of Birmingham and raised it to cathedral status. But the CofE isn't in the business of creating new dioceses these days - in fact it's merging them instead, cf the Diocese of Leeds, formed from a merger of the dioceses of Ripon, Bradford and Wakefield - so Wolverhampton's impressive St Peter's church is most unlikely to become a cathedral, and Wolverhampton's bishop will remain a suffragan within the diocese of Lichfield. Meanwhile, Southwell Minster is the cathedral church of a diocese, but Southwell is not and has never been a city.
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