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Cian wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 14:19 There was a fully automated abandoned one in Navan for many years, but it has been removed and tarred over now

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Only abandoned since 2001 when the Kingscourt line closed. It had gone by 2010, with equipment probably used to keep other crossings functioning. It was operated by train crew from the cabinets at the crossing.

Also by 2010, many crossing gates had been removed and replaced with wire fencing. I took some pics, which include the last crossing keeper at Knightstown who pointed out that the gates were still lying broken beside the line.
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The one near Kings Lynn Docks, mentioned a couple of times in this thread, has apparently now become a litter issue drawing the attention of the town council.
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Kinitawowi wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 14:43 The one near Kings Lynn Docks, mentioned a couple of times in this thread, has apparently now become a litter issue drawing the attention of the town council.
That is an old article, the latest image from 2022 shows not so much litter as builders rubble !
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.75852 ... 384!8i8192
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KeithW wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 18:34
Kinitawowi wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 14:43 The one near Kings Lynn Docks, mentioned a couple of times in this thread, has apparently now become a litter issue drawing the attention of the town council.
That is an old article, the latest image from 2022 shows not so much litter as builders rubble !
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.75852 ... 384!8i8192
The article is dated two days ago. The photograph in the article is dated two years ago,
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doebag wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 20:48 The article is dated two days ago. The photograph in the article is dated two years ago,
Which is either extremely sloppy journalism or just rerunning an old item on a slow news day.
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The builder's rubble is also signed and appears to be planned roadworks.
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:rant: Low quality journalism even by the usual standards of low quality "news" websites. The problem is that these are old railway gates? If they had been replaced by a normal fence, would there be any less litter or would it be less of a problem? :no:
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The gate on the other side of the road doesn't have the same issue, largely because the area behind it is completely overgrown and the council's interaction probably amounts to just enough to make sure it doesn't actually block the pavement.

I note there's an indication that at least one of the gates is officially port authority property; one of the council reps says they don't own either of them. As the messier side with a vacant track bed (does the council own that?) appears to back on to housing there's probably planning implications as to what they can do.
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the cheesecake man wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 13:29 :rant: Low quality journalism even by the usual standards of low quality "news" websites. The problem is that these are old railway gates? If they had been replaced by a normal fence, would there be any less litter or would it be less of a problem? :no:
I suspect the problem is that there is nobody tasked with the responsibility to maintain the gates or clean the area, looking at the 1:25000 OS map that seems to have been the line into the docks. It was not have been part of the BR or Network Rail owned land but was owned and maintained by the docks as the King's Lynn Dock Railway which of course no longer exists.
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https://www.norfolksdisusedrailways.com/kingslynndocks

According to the above site there was a clean up of the gates area in 2021 but it has simply built up again and the gates continued to rot.

We have similar fragments around the old Middlesbrough Docks area.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.57715 ... 384!8i8192
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Is that not coming back into use at some point? I understand work was being done on the line not too long ago. Not sure if the line is still severed from the mainline though.
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Nathan_A_RF wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 17:43 Is that not coming back into use at some point? I understand work was being done on the line not too long ago. Not sure if the line is still severed from the mainline though.
Its not impossible, much of the line still exists and the new South Quay was completed in 2018. That said both GSV and the aerial view show a lot of stuff blocking it and its obviously not seen any use lately.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.71026 ... 312!8i6656
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KeithW wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 18:29 Its not impossible, much of the line still exists and the new South Quay was completed in 2018. That said both GSV and the aerial view show a lot of stuff blocking it and its obviously not seen any use lately.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.71026 ... 312!8i6656
They've gone to the trouble of not blocking the rails with the fresh tarmac so they must think there's some chance of use.
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the cheesecake man wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:38
KeithW wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 18:29 Its not impossible, much of the line still exists and the new South Quay was completed in 2018. That said both GSV and the aerial view show a lot of stuff blocking it and its obviously not seen any use lately.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.71026 ... 312!8i6656
They've gone to the trouble of not blocking the rails with the fresh tarmac so they must think there's some chance of use.
It looks to me like the tarmac has been laid right up to the rails, which would prevent trains passing as there's nowhere for the wheel flanges to go. If trains were to run here, the tarmac would need digging out and replacing with either panels (as seen in the older view) or something with a retaining rail to keep the tarmac off the inner side of the rails.
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Funnily enough I walked past that one today.
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Lockwood wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 23:33 Totton

https://maps.app.goo.gl/1TKxftx4k53YQYb3A
Just had a quick look on the OS map, and it's shown as a short branch off the main line to a "works" of some sort. Also there is Eling Wharf there, although I suspect that is no longer used.
There is Eling Tide Mill there too !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eling_Tide_Mill
We went to see it some years ago, but were unable to see it working.
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Stalbridge, Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway:
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Lockwood wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 23:33 Totton

https://maps.app.goo.gl/1TKxftx4k53YQYb3A
That was the line down to the Eling Wharf
http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.u ... ranch.html
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Porth-y-Waen, Shropshire

Part of the Cambrian Railways (Later GWR/BR) network this crossing is near the Llynclys Quarry, previously owned by Tarmac, and not far from the famous unused level crossings on the A483 and A5 at Oswestry. I recall that during my time at University (2004-2007) the rails were still in the actual road, but have since been lifted/surfaced over.

Interestingly, This website claims that the Llynclys Junction branch which includes this crossing as well as the "ghost" crossings A483/A5 were in use until 1988, which makes their inclusion in the road somewhat less of a mystery
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