Seen a few of these near me.
For some reason I think its to do with roadworks if the construction companies can't be bothered to get a permit to close the road they go the low effort route and put these up. I thought they could only tempoarily "obstruct" a road for ten minutes and anything longer is considered a closure?
"Temporary obstruction delay" sign
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Re: "Temporary obstruction delay" sign
I can't remember if it's 10 or 15 minutes that's permitted, but traffic can be held on stop/go boards or TTLs without need a road closure order.
It's quite common for work such as tree felling or work on a rock slope.
It's quite common for work such as tree felling or work on a rock slope.
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Re: "Temporary obstruction delay" sign
Traffic Signs Manual, Chapter 8, Part 1:
D5.13.3 It is recommended that queues in excess of 15 vehicles should be avoided because longer queues will take longer to disperse and for the traffic flow to return to normal. If a queue in excess of 20 vehicles at either end is likely or an all-red period in excess of 10 minutes is required, permission for an extended all-red period should be sought from the Highway Authority.
So up to 10 minutes without permission. I've got £50 that says when a "15 minute" sign is used the user hasn't sought permission from the Highway Authority.
This all started with a Traffic Advisory leaflet, (TAL 01/14), where "15 minutes" was shown on a couple of signs. So naturally everyone just went with that, rather than reading Chapter 8.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -signs.pdf
D5.13.3 It is recommended that queues in excess of 15 vehicles should be avoided because longer queues will take longer to disperse and for the traffic flow to return to normal. If a queue in excess of 20 vehicles at either end is likely or an all-red period in excess of 10 minutes is required, permission for an extended all-red period should be sought from the Highway Authority.
So up to 10 minutes without permission. I've got £50 that says when a "15 minute" sign is used the user hasn't sought permission from the Highway Authority.
This all started with a Traffic Advisory leaflet, (TAL 01/14), where "15 minutes" was shown on a couple of signs. So naturally everyone just went with that, rather than reading Chapter 8.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -signs.pdf
Patience is not a virtue - it's a concept invented by the dozy beggars who are unable to think quickly enough.
Re: "Temporary obstruction delay" sign
I thought so.Conekicker wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:52 Traffic Signs Manual, Chapter 8, Part 1:
D5.13.3 It is recommended that queues in excess of 15 vehicles should be avoided because longer queues will take longer to disperse and for the traffic flow to return to normal. If a queue in excess of 20 vehicles at either end is likely or an all-red period in excess of 10 minutes is required, permission for an extended all-red period should be sought from the Highway Authority.
So up to 10 minutes without permission. I've got £50 that says when a "15 minute" sign is used the user hasn't sought permission from the Highway Authority.
This all started with a Traffic Advisory leaflet, (TAL 01/14), where "15 minutes" was shown on a couple of signs. So naturally everyone just went with that, rather than reading Chapter 8.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -signs.pdf
A few months back in the same area as this (different road), there was a massive queue at a set of temporary lights i was in. Couldn't see any cars in the opposite direction. We must have been waiting about eight minutes. There was a vehicle in the road. Everyone ended up jumping the queue and just driving on the opposite side of the road, using the pavement, i refrained from doing so. I asked the road workers what on earth was going on. they said the road had to be blocked for 15 minutes because of a truck. there was no sign no nothing. i told them that if it had to be blocked for that long why not just close the road in its entirety especially as there was a road running parallel which could have ben used as a diversion.