Is this right?

[Derek]

There shouldn't need to be a special marking to signify the need to give way to pedestrians and cyclists, because they have priority in that situation whatever. What you do need to do is highlight that this is a route specially recommended for cyclists so the chances of encountering them and needing to give way to them is higher here than it may be elsewhere. My personal preference in this case is to have coloured tarmac; please, not paint and certainly not setts, cobbles or bricks, because paint is slippery and the latter are uneven.

The way I see it is they've sort of tried to follow LTN1/20 but didn't go the whole way. They refuse to use coloured tarmac "because it fades" apparently (!) and also they won't use kerbs on the ramps.

[DB617]

There shouldn't need to be a special marking to signify the need to give way to pedestrians and cyclists, because they have priority in that situation whatever. What you do need to do is highlight that this is a route specially recommended for cyclists so the chances of encountering them and needing to give way to them is higher here than it may be elsewhere. My personal preference in this case is to have coloured tarmac; please, not paint and certainly not setts, cobbles or bricks, because paint is slippery and the latter are uneven.

The way I see it is they've sort of tried to follow LTN1/20 but didn't go the whole way. They refuse to use coloured tarmac "because it fades" apparently (!) and also they won't use kerbs on the ramps.

Amusing. The surviving bits of red tarmac on the M5/50 around Gloucestershire are... Well, still red. Apparently nobody knows about 'just using red aggregate' anymore.

[wallmeerkat]

There shouldn't need to be a special marking to signify the need to give way to pedestrians and cyclists, because they have priority in that situation whatever. What you do need to do is highlight that this is a route specially recommended for cyclists so the chances of encountering them and needing to give way to them is higher here than it may be elsewhere. My personal preference in this case is to have coloured tarmac; please, not paint and certainly not setts, cobbles or bricks, because paint is slippery and the latter are uneven.

The way I see it is they've sort of tried to follow LTN1/20 but didn't go the whole way. They refuse to use coloured tarmac "because it fades" apparently (!) and also they won't use kerbs on the ramps.

Amusing. The surviving bits of red tarmac on the M5/50 around Gloucestershire are... Well, still red. Apparently nobody knows about 'just using red aggregate' anymore.

NI motorways used to use red for hard shoulders eg. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.85969 ... ?entry=ttu

But on any recent widening/replacement/retarmac they've given up on the idea - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.66896 ... ?entry=ttu

and when they do use red to highlight a section of road, it tends to be an anti-skid top layer rather than aggregate - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.61353 ... ?entry=ttu

[jnty]

Edinburgh uses 'red tarmac' for some bus and cycle lanes, but the effect isn't nearly as pronounced as red hard shoulders I've seen: https://maps.app.goo.gl/diTUBLear2XrRmWR8

Of course, it causes problems if you want to tweak the road layout, or if the resurfacing crew gets it a bit wrong: https://maps.app.goo.gl/CcW77Vd3YiXBqqrm7

I suppose it's arguably more durable than anti-skid: https://maps.app.goo.gl/AbGgiekPHuBHW8ko8

[Derek]

Anti skid has its uses as anti skid, but it doesn't last long. Likewise coloured paint wears off pretty quickly. Sp it looks good when it's new, but falls to bit really quickly.

It is strange that the Netherlands can do this very effectively (red cycle routes) when we can't.

[Bryn666]

The plants that make coloured asphalts have to scrub and clean their units to return to ordinary black material so there is often a staggering uplift here.

I'm guessing NL has dedicated colour asphalt makers.

[Nicola_Jayne]

The plants that make coloured asphalts have to scrub and clean their units to return to ordinary black material so there is often a staggering uplift here.

I'm guessing NL has dedicated colour asphalt makers.

or there is sufficient demand for the coloutred stuff they can keep (at least ) one unit / line churning out the coloured stuff on a consistent basis

[Debaser]

The plants that make coloured asphalts have to scrub and clean their units to return to ordinary black material so there is often a staggering uplift here.

I'm guessing NL has dedicated colour asphalt makers.

I've always been led to believe the Dutch get 'their' red aggregate from somewhere in north-east England!